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TWI-NY TALK: JOHN SCHAEFER

The Alloy Orchestra will play new scores for silent films at the World Financial Center this week (photo by Bruce Rogovin)

NEW SOUNDS LIVE SILENT FILM SERIES
World Financial Center Winter Garden
220 Vesey St.
February 2-4, free, 7:00
212-417-7050
www.wnyc.org
www.artsworldfinancialcenter.com

For nearly a quarter of a century, WNYC host John Schaefer has been presenting New Sounds Live, a series of live music events held in such locations as Merkin Concert Hall and the World Financial Center, featuring an eclectic lineup of musicians that has ranged from Ryuchi Sakamoto, Kitka, and David Hykes and the Harmonic Choir to One Ring Zero with authors Paul Auster, Siri Hustvedt, and Rick Moody. As part of the festival, Schaefer has been curating the New Sounds Live Silent Film Series, in which individuals or groups play live, original scores to silent classics in the WFC Winter Garden. Past years have paired the Club Foot Orchestra with THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA (Rupert Julian, 1925), the Cinematic Orchestra with MAN WITH A MOVIE CAMERA (Dziga Vertov, 1929), the BQE Ensemble with THE GOLEM (Paul Wegener, 1920), and, last year, Lori Goldston, Wayne Horvitz, and Robin Holcomb with three Yasujio Ozu films. This year Schaefer has enlisted the Alloy Orchestra — keyboardist Roger Miller (Mission of Burma) with multi-instrumentalists Terry Donahue and Ken Winokur — to perform their scores to Buster Keaton’s ONE WEEK (1920), Fatty Arbuckle’s BACK STAGE (1919), and Charlie Chaplin’s EASY STREET (1917) on February 2, Harold Lloyd’s SPEEDY (1928) on February 3, and Douglas Fairbanks’s THE BLACK PIRATE (1926) on February 4. Schaefer discussed the series and more in the latest twi-ny talk.

twi-ny: How did you decide on the specific films that are included in this year’s New Sounds Live Silent Film Series program?

Buster Keaton’s 1920 classic ONE WEEK should bring the house down February 2 at the World Financial Center

John Schaefer: Well, there’s a lot to be said for the Principle of Restricted Choice. In this case, there were several things we wanted to do: One was a series of lighter works, more comic films than the Yasujiro Ozu movies we presented last year. And we also didn’t want to repeat films we’d shown before. Alloy has quite a film repertoire at its disposal, but we’ve worked with them several times over the years so there were a number of films we’d already done. The Harold Lloyd seemed a no-brainer, especially given its New York-centric storyline. And the score that Alloy did for that movie is smart and catchy — an important factor for a series that features live music. The Douglas Fairbanks film, probably best known for the scene where Fairbanks slides down a ship’s mainsail by holding on to a knife that is ripping into the fabric, is not a comedy but it is so over-the-top that you can hardly watch it without grinning — a quality reflected in Alloy’s score, by the way. And the collection of shorts gave us the opportunity to present three of the enduring geniuses of cinema comedy in one fell swoop. That’s what we’ll start the series with, on Wednesday the 2nd.

twi-ny: There are several piano players and groups that specialize in playing live to silent films. What does the Alloy Orchestra bring to these silent films that is different from other accompanists?

JS: The main thing they bring is their Rack of Junk — a ton (and I think I mean that literally) of percussive and other noise-making gear that augments the keyboards, clarinet, accordion, and other instruments that the three musicians also play. Also, this series of films with live music has always focused on music that does not sound like traditional movie-score material. Alloy doesn’t go in for “period pieces”; they create genuinely new music for these old films. As a result, the films seem less like period pieces themselves and more like a still-living art form.

twi-ny: You are the host of WNYC’s “New Sounds” and “Soundcheck,” for which you also write a blog nearly every day, covering a wide range of topics from across the musical spectrum. How has the internet changed the relationship between you and your listeners?

JS: The biggest change since the internet came along is to make communication with the listeners much easier. We get comments every day on “Soundcheck,” many of which we read on the air; “New Sounds” listeners can access web-only content; Facebook and Twitter allow us to keep our audience up to speed on live events (like these films), special guests, etc. And the ability to archive audio is a huge boost; especially with a show that isn’t in prime listening hours. Now, if you don’t want to stay up till midnight, you can still hear “New Sounds” — and hear it anytime you like. And even after all these years, I feel like the digital communication with our listeners is still growing up, unsure of what it’s eventually going to be. For example, we have a sizable treasure trove of videos of live in-studio performances on “Soundcheck,” and at some point we’re gonna figure out how best to organize these things in a way that allows people to easily find and use them. The internet has already made it so much easier to access information about the shows, the music, and more, but there are lots of other ways in which it can and will deepen the audience’s experience, and that’s a real major area of growth for us.

TWI-NY TALK: HARRISON GREENBAUM



NEW YEAR’S EVE SPECTACULAR

Carolines on Broadway
1626 Broadway between 49th & 50th Sts.
Friday, December 31, 7:30 ($38.25) & 10:00 ($87)
212-757-4100
www.carolines.com
www.harrisongreenbaum.com

Harrison Greenbaum is not your standard stand-up. The New York native, who graduated summa cum laude from Harvard, adds a bit of magic to his comedy routines, which began at the Underground Lounge on West End Ave. in 2006, soon included appearances at the New York Underground Comedy Festival and the Boston Comedy Festival, and recently earned him the 2010 Andy Kaufman Award. Last year on December 31, Greenbaum cohosted the official international Times Square New Year’s Eve ball-drop webcast. This New Year’s Eve he’ll be back in Times Square, part of what Carolines on Broadway is calling “the Funniest Party in the Universe.” The night of comedy features Greenbaum along with Vince August, Nate Bargatze, Kurt Metzger, and Mike Vecchione, with performances at 7:30 and 10:00. (The late show will be followed by a live DJ and dancing.) Greenbaum will also be at Carolines nightly through December 26 as part of the Chosen Ones, a group of Jewish comedians that includes Myq Kaplan, Adam Newman, Josh Spear, and Justin Silver, as well as on New Year’s Day for the Carolines Presents show. Earlier this week Greenbaum magically found some time in his nonstop schedule to answer a few questions exclusively for twi-ny.

twi-ny: Do you adapt your regular show for New Year’s Eve? People pay more than usual to be entertained that night, so do they expect more than usual, or are they like any other crowd?

Harrison Greenbaum: As a comic, I always try to incorporate the audience and the surroundings, so I definitely think all of the excitement and craziness of New Year’s Eve will become a part of the show. I do think the audiences on New Year’s Eve might expect a little more than your standard audience — it’s a special occasion, so it should be a special show. I definitely want to ensure that everyone in the audience starts off 2011 with a huge bang and a lot of laughter.

Andy Kaufman Award winner Harrison Greenbaum will celebrate New Year’s Eve with a mix of comedy and magic at Carolines in Times Square (photo by Kyle Buzby)

twi-ny: The bill also includes Vince August, Nate Bargatze, Kurt Metzger, and Mike Vecchione. Care to share any insight about any of your fellow performers? You’re the only one who has won the Andy Kaufman Award, which is pretty cool.

HG: It’s honestly a huge honor to be on the show with such great comedians. These guys are some of the best performers in the country, and it’s a privilege to call all of these guys my friends. Working with guys of this caliber definitely forces you to up your game, so I’m looking forward to a really amazing show. (And thanks for mentioning the Andy Kaufman Award. It was such a huge honor and I’m so proud to be a part of Andy’s incredible legacy. I definitely hope to bring some of the creative and off-the-wall energy Andy had to the stage at Carolines this New Year’s.)

twi-ny: You’re a native New Yorker performing on New Year’s Eve in Times Square. Don’t you know that real New Yorkers avoid Times Square like the plague on New Year’s Eve?

HG: I used to joke with my friends that the only way you’d catch me in Times Square for New Year’s Eve was as the host of a live broadcast of the ball drop. Well, last year, that’s exactly what happened: I ended up cohosting the Times Square New Year’s Eve Worldwide Webcast, a six-and-a-half-hour live broadcast of the ball drop viewed by over 250 million people around the world. I have to say that now, having been to the ball drop in person, I finally understand why so many people come to Times Square. It’s definitely cold and it’s definitely crammed full of people (over a million people come out to Times Square each year), but nowhere else can you feel such an amazing positive energy coming from so many people at the same time. So, yes, I’m a native New Yorker, and, yes, I definitely used to avoid Times Square as much as possible on December 31, but now that I’ve actually experienced it, I have totally changed my tune. So, in all honesty, I’m really looking forward to being in Times Square this New Year’s. (Plus, Carolines is one of my favorite places in the world to be on any day, so why wouldn’t I want to be there to ring in 2011?)

TWI-NY TALK AND SIGNED BOOK GIVEAWAY: PAT COOPER

Pat Cooper signs copies of his memoir at book warming party at Friars Club earlier this month (photo by twi-ny/mdr)

Monday, November 15, TGI Friday’s, Penn Station, 2 Penn Plaza, Amtrak level, 5:00
Tuesday, November 16, Borders, 10 Columbus Circle, 7:00
Wednesday, November 17, TGI Friday’s, 34 Union Sq. East, 5:00
Friday, November 19, TGI Friday’s, Penn Station, 1 Penn Plaza, LIRR level, 5:00
Saturday, November 20, Uncle Vinnie’s Comedy Club, 168 New Dorp Ln., Staten Island, $35-$75, 8:00
www.patcooper.com
www.squareonepublishers.com

Born in Brooklyn to Italian immigrant parents, young Pasquale Caputo was expected to become a seventh-generation bricklayer. Instead, he took his chances onstage, where he tried not to lay bricks. Becoming a comic while still a kid, he eventually changed his name to Pat Cooper and ultimately turned into a comedian’s comedian who is not afraid to take on the system. “He has this fantastic capacity to challenge the art form, and has done so with an exquisite approach to the human condition,” Jerry Lewis writes in the foreword to Cooper’s intimate, revealing, and extremely funny memoir, HOW DARE YOU SAY HOW DARE ME! (Square One, November 15, $24.95). The book identifies Cooper’s roots in Red Hook, then traces his path from a rather brief flirtation with the military to his wild experiences in the Borscht Belt and Vegas, telling it like it is, four-letter words and all. The smooth, breezy narrative feels as if Cooper is in the room reading the book to you; in fact, he told the story to his friend and promoter, Steve Garrin, a recording engineer and producer who founded the VoiceWorks voiceover workshop. Writer Richard Herschlag then set it down on the printed page.

On November 3, Cooper launched the book with a boisterous party at the Friars Club that spilled out of the Milton Berle Room and into the Lucille Ball Room. Cooper received tributes from dean Freddie Roman, radio host Lionel, and fellow comedian Jackie “the Joke Man” Martling. Others in attendance included Marilyn Michaels, Joe Franklin, and ninety-six-year-old Professor Irwin Corey, who makes the spry eighty-one-year-old Cooper look like a spring chicken. When Cooper took the podium, he opened with schtick befitting the man whose latest DVD is entitled YOU’RE ALWAYS YELLING!, but he soon revealed his kinder, gentler side, which shows through in the book as well.

“To me, all the years that I’ve been in this business, and to get those kinds of accolades after writing a book, I was mostly in shock because I don’t expect it, I don’t look for it, and when it comes, it’s like a bonus that you never expected,” a humbled Cooper told twi-ny a few days later. “A lot of these people who were very kind to me I don’t know personally, and I was in shock again to think that’s what they thought about me, which is just an extra bonus. So, you know, you go down the road and you say you’re very fortunate, and I just hope this book says something, and I think the word is, and my friends who read the book said, it’s the word dignity, and I hope that’s what I put across. At least people will say, ‘Well, if I didn’t like the book, it had some dignity in it.’”

Cooper will be all over New York City next week, sitting in with Opie & Anthony, Alan Colmes, and Joy Behar and holding signings at several TGI Friday’s restaurants and the Borders in Columbus Circle; he will also be performing stand-up at Uncle Vinnie’s Comedy Club in Staten Island. He’ll be back on December 12 at Di Palo Selects in Little Italy, followed by the highly anticipated “An Evening with Pat Cooper” January 25 at the 92nd St. Y. His appearance at the Y should only lend more credence to those who are sure that Cooper is actually Jewish. “They believed that the skinny kid with the horn-rimmed glasses davened in the morning, did his routines on garlic and saints at night, and said the Shema before going to bed,” he writes in the book. “He was circumcised, not baptized. He was bar mitzvahed, not given Holy Communion. He dropped out of law school, not trade school.”

To enter to win a signed copy of HOW DARE YOU SAY HOW DARE ME!, send your name and daytime phone number to contest@twi-ny.com no later than Tuesday, November 16, at 12 noon. All entrants must be at least twenty-one years of age. One winner will be chosen at random. Good luck!

TWI-NY TALK: MARLO THOMAS

Marlo Thomas will be at the Lincoln Triangle B&N on November 4 to sign copies of her latest book

Barnes & Noble Lincoln Triangle
1972 Broadway at 66th St.
Thursday, November 4, free, 7:30
212-595-6859
www.marlothomas.aol.com
www.hyperioncatalogs.com

In the first chapter of her entertaining memoir, GROWING UP LAUGHING: MY STORY AND THE STORY OF FUNNY (Hyperion, September 2010, $26.99), Marlo Thomas writes about how her family “celebrated everything.” The book itself is a celebration as well: of her life and career; of her father, famous actor and comedian Danny Thomas; and of comedy in general. The star of the early feminist television series THAT GIRL and the creator of FREE TO BE . . . YOU AND ME, which has helped raise several generations of children by teaching kids and parents about compassion, individuality, tolerance, friendship, and the value of family, Thomas has been one of America’s genuine sweethearts for some fifty years. In the book, Thomas, who has been married to talk-show legend Phil Donahue for thirty years, alternates between personal chapters and interviews about comedy with some of her famous friends, including Don Rickles, Tina Fey, Conan O’Brien, Kathy Griffin, Stephen Colbert, Elaine May, Alan Alda, Whoopi Goldberg, and Chris Rock, who all help tell the “story of funny.” Thomas recently talked with twi-ny about the book and her career as she continued her whirlwind promotional tour, which brings her to the B&N at Lincoln Triangle on November 4 at 7:30 for a reading, discussion, and signing.

twi-ny: You’re used to being the one interviewed, but in your new book, you interview some of your favorite comics, including Jerry Seinfeld, Billy Crystal, Robin Williams, Joan Rivers, and Lily Tomlin. How does it feel to be on the other side of the table, asking the questions?

Marlo Thomas: It was a lot harder and actually more interesting than I expected. I’m certainly familiar with the interview dynamic, having sat for so many of them throughout the years; and because many of my interview subjects in the book were already friends of mine, I instantly felt comfortable with them. But what I learned quickly was how important it is to thoroughly prepare going into an interview — even with someone you think you know. I read their books, watched their specials, even though I’d seen many of them before, so that when we sat down to talk I had a lot of background in my head, not just a lot of questions — which I think makes for a better conversation and leads to a better interview. It was also challenging for me to keep guiding the conversation to where the funny was.

These are interesting people that are great to talk with on a variety of subjects, but since the book is about laughter I had to stay on topic. Luckily, all of my subjects are famously funny people, so they enjoyed exploring the area. But I know I’ll never again sit for an interview without being acutely aware of the hard work that’s going on on the other side of the table.

twi-ny: You write that GROWING UP LAUGHING is your “first and only memoir,” implying that this public examination of your life is not something you’ll be doing again. Was it difficult to open up about your life and share so much of yourself?

MT: I’ve always believed that unless you’re one of those people who have lived more than one kind of life — like Ted Turner or Grace Kelly — or unless you live to an unusually old age — like George Burns — one memoir is pretty much all you need to tell a life story. And as I say in my prologue to GROWING UP LAUGHING, the stories I tell in the book have been humming in my head all my life, so I feel wonderfully satisfied at having written them down at last.

But the life of an entertainer or any public person is no different from anyone else’s in that we’ve all lived through experiences that are painful or difficult or simply sad to recall, and so it was occasionally challenging for me to relive some of those moments in my book — particularly the death of my father. But as in acting, I wanted to create as complete and honest a picture as I could of my “character” — which in this case happened to be the real me. Fortunately, the concept for the book permitted me to take a break from my own story from time to time and explore the lives of these wonderful comedians and get some great laughs along the way.

twi-ny: In addition to being about your life and your family, your book is about comedy in general. How do you think the state of comedy has changed, if at all, since your father’s heyday? And if it has changed, is it for the better?

MT: Comedy is always changing as times and taboos change but what doesn’t change is how important laughter is to our lives. It can be a release of tensions. It can be a healing from pain. And nothing brings people together better than laughter. It is deliciously contagious. When I asked Jerry Seinfeld about all the different styles of comedy and how it changes from generation to generation, he likened it to a perfume counter at a department store — different people like different smells, and that’s what makes comedy so personal. Chris Rock told me that he can sit at the computer for hours on end watching clips on YouTube of legendary comics from all eras — from Lenny Bruce to Richard Pryor. To me, that says it all about the timelessness — and durability — of laughter.

TWI-NY TALK: FRANK STEFANKO & DANNY CLINCH

Danny Clinch, “Harley, Allaire Industrial Park, Wall Township, NJ 2007” (© Danny Clinch, 2007)



FROM DARKNESS TO A DREAM

Morrison Hotel Gallery
124 Prince St.
October 15 – November 7, free
212-941-8770
www.morrisonhotelgallery.com

The Boss might be off the road and in between albums right now, but that doesn’t mean there isn’t plenty of Bruce Juice to be devoured these days. Bruce Springsteen was recently in Toronto for the world premiere of THE PROMISE: THE DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN STORY, Thom Zimny’s behind-the-scenes documentary of the making of the seminal 1978 album, and the film is currently being aired on HBO prior to the release of the highly anticipated DARKNESS boxed set on November 16. On October 15, the Morrison Hotel Gallery’s SoHo branch looks back at those glory days and beyond with “From Darkness to a Dream,” an exhibit of familiar and never-before-seen photographs of Springsteen taken by Frank Stefanko, who shot the covers for DARKNESS and THE RIVER, and Danny Clinch, who has been shooting Bruce since 1999, including the covers for THE RISING, MAGIC, and WORKING ON A DREAM. Stefanko, who met Springsteen through Patti Smith, captures Bruce at a pivotal time in his career, during the three-year hiatus following the breakout success of BORN TO RUN, when Bruce’s future was in doubt. Clinch, who met Springsteen while an assistant for Annie Liebovitz during the TUNNEL OF LOVE sessions, reveals a more mature, relaxed Bruce, whether onstage, in the studio, or hanging around with his motorcycles. Stefanko and Clinch recently discussed with twi-ny their involvement with Springsteen and the upcoming SoHo show.

twi-ny: Frank, you photographed Bruce during a turning point in his career, when it took him three years to release DARKNESS ON THE EDGE OF TOWN and another two-plus years to make THE RIVER. In your book DAYS OF HOPES AND DREAMS, Bruce wrote that you “latched onto the very conflicts and ideas I was struggling to come to terms with: Who am I? Where do I go now? He showed me the people I was writing about in my songs. He showed me the part of me that was still one of them.” What do you think it was about the two of you that made you instantly click?

Frank Stefanko: I think the most important thing we did, before ever putting a roll of film in the camera, was to sit down in my living room and chat. In our “getting to know each other” conversation, we found out we had a lot in common. We both came from working-class families. Bruce’s mother was Italian and his father was Dutch Irish. My mother was also Italian and my father was Czechoslovakian. We had families that worked hard, and there was a sense of honesty and dignity. The best of these cultures — honesty, dignity, work ethic — seemed to rub off on us. It helped me to understand the character of the young man I was to capture on film. There were other similarities between us. We both were New Jerseyians, we both loved the Jersey Shore, and we both grew up with the same music around us, so this guy who was about to stand before my lens seemed very familiar to me.

twi-ny: Danny, as evidenced by your December 2008 show at the Morrison Hotel Gallery on Bowery, you’ve taken pictures of such musical icons as Johnny Cash, Lucinda Williams, Neil Young, Joan Jett, Tupac Shakur, Radiohead, Norah Jones, Michael Stipe, Kanye West, Tom Waits, and James Brown. How does Bruce Springsteen compare as a photographic subject with these other superstars, both shooting him in a prepared, posed setting as well as when he’s performing onstage?

Danny Clinch: Honestly, Bruce is a great subject; he gets the process. A subject has to participate in some way for the photograph to be successful. Also, as a photographer you have to be ready to get it when it’s there. He also understands that giving me great access backstage or onstage will result in good photographs. But it takes time to get that trust.

Bruce Springsteen, “Darkness,” Back Cover / Album Square (© Frank Stefanko, 1978)

twi-ny: In the 1970s and ’80s, Bruce was notoriously protective of his career, from the songs he would put on record to the album covers and promotional photographs he would allow to be seen by the public. In the 2000s, he seems to be much more relaxed about both, releasing several records in a relatively short period of time and being seen much more often in photo spreads. Would you both agree that there has indeed been such a change in Bruce’s attitude about his image, and if so, why do you think that is? How do you think your two sets of images, from completely different periods, will either complement or compete with each other when hung together in the gallery?

DC: What I remember about the ’70s and ’80s were the Springsteen album photographs that are ingrained in my memory. Some of them were Frank’s. But if you look at Frank’s photographs from back then, it seems Bruce was already open to having Frank come hang where the band was, a diner, on the street, leaning on his car. These weren’t glamour photos; these were documents of who he was at the time. And he has given me the same opportunities. Although I am often hired to do these shoots, sometimes Bruce and I come up with some ideas/inspiration and just get together and shoot some photographs, knowing that we’ll use ’em down the road. This is why I think our photographs will complement well in the gallery show. It’s a different era, but the same trust was given to get these great opportunities.

FS: I have noticed a loosening of restrictions over the years regarding Bruce’s images. Some of it may be because Bruce and his management may be more comfortable with the fact that there is nothing to hide. I think Bruce has matured, and those issues have become less important, while other issues affecting humanity and the planet have become more important. In general, however, I just think that because he is one of the most photographed performers alive today, with his images everywhere, you start to get a sense of . . . well, this is part of the legacy and it’s OK. Regarding Danny Clinch’s images and mine hanging together in our show, Danny and I have talked about this and we both agree. The fact that these images have been taken with thirty years between them, they work beautifully together. There is a common thread that weaves these images together . . . they have soul. There is a moody, soulful quality in both of our work that has transcended time and space. You will see a younger, DARKNESS-era Bruce and a more mature, contemporary Bruce; however, we both are able to show the soul, moods, and essence of the artist that is Bruce Springsteen.

TWI-NY TALK: MARSHALL FINE

Journalist, critic, and author Marshall Fine will start Upper West Side film club series on September 28



THE THALIA FILM CLUB

Leonard Nimoy Thalia, Symphony Space
2537 Broadway at 95th St.
September 28 – November 23
Single tickets $22, subscription series $95 (five events)
212-864-5400
www.symphonyspace.org
www.hollywoodandfine.com

In 1963, a bespectacled seventh grader wrote a review of the film TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD for his suburban Minneapolis school paper, telling his fellow students to “see this touching and mystifying movie.” Marshall Fine has been advising people what to see — and what not to see — ever since. For several decades, Fine has been writing reviews and conducting interviews for such publications as the New York Daily News, USA Today, the Los Angeles Times, the Star, Entertainment Weekly, the Huffington Post, and Playboy. He has programmed numerous film series and has made two documentaries, the short FLO FOX’S DICTHOLOGY, about photographer Flo Fox’s penchant for taking playful pictures of the male member, and DO YOU SLEEP IN THE NUDE?, about fellow film critic Rex Reed. He also maintains the website “Hollywood & Fine”; as he notes in its mission statement, “I call this site ‘Movies for Smart People’ because I have no interest in dumbing it down. I think of what I do as old-school journalism for a post-literate world. Those of us who still value the written word have to soldier on.”

Fine will continue fighting the good fight in his latest venture, “The Thalia Film Club,” being held at Symphony Space on the Upper West Side. Fine will host five nights of screenings of upcoming releases, followed by Q&As with the director, star, writer, or other behind-the-scenes special guests. The fall season begins September 28 and runs through November 23; single tickets are $22, with a subscription to all five events $95. There will also be winter and spring clubs featuring discounted tickets for early-bird subscribers. Don’t bother trying to find out what Fine will be showing; part of the fun is that he never reveals his selections or his guests in advance. While covering the Toronto International Film Festival, Fine took a break to talk with twi-ny about movie mavericks and the current state of film criticism.


twi-ny: How do you go about choosing the films for the series? Do you look for overall quality, potential guests, expected popular appeal, or other intangibles?

Marshall Fine: All of those factors go into choosing the films. Ultimately, I want to show the best films available with the most interesting guests. My goal is to provoke a lively discussion and create a sense of community, which I believe enhances the moviegoing experience. Certainly, when an audience member says, “Oh, I’ve been dying to see this,” that feels good. But I also hope to surprise them — to have them come away thinking that, while it wasn’t a movie they’d have gone to see on their own, they were glad they saw it.

twi-ny: Over the last few years, many film critics have lost their full-time jobs as newspapers and magazines publish fewer and fewer reviews in print and cover fewer and fewer films in general. Although many of these critics are now publishing their reviews online (often independently), they’re also competing with a lot more people, since anybody can become a film reviewer today by starting their own blog. What kind of an impact do you think that has on the industry and the state of film criticism in general?

MF: I think the fact that so few newspapers employ full-time critics has hurt film criticism. Newspapers — and magazines, for that matter — create a relationship with their audience, which includes a familiarity with a critic’s taste. And the critics at those papers got those jobs because of their knowledge, their taste, and their ability to express their opinions clearly and concisely. When that disappears, when film criticism turns into a consensus contest à la Rotten Tomatoes, the reader no longer is able to rely on a familiar voice, whether he agrees or disagrees with that voice. That’s particularly damaging to smaller films, which no longer have time to build word of mouth and whose chances of survival can be damaged by early reviews on the Internet, no matter how wrong-headed. Instead there’s a race to be first and to pile on — for good or ill — and no chance for a film that might get good reviews overall to recover from bad early reviews.

twi-ny: You’ve written three film biographies, of John Cassavetes, Sam Peckinpah, and Harvey Keitel, quite a trio of eclectic personalities. What should that tell us about you?

MF: Obviously I’m drawn to mavericks; read into that what you will. But what they all have in common is that, at some point, all three of my subjects — in pursuing their individual muses (or battling their particular demons) — changed the world around them by doing what they did. Though the public at large may not remember Peckinpah or Cassavetes, it still sees their influence, whether it knows it or not.

TWI-NY TALK: ELISSA LERNER

Elissa Lerner investigates religious differences in unique ways in ABRAHAM’S DAUGHTERS, part of the 2010 Fringe Festival (photo by Kaija B. Braus)

ABRAHAM’S DAUGHTERS
New York International Fringe Festival
SoHo Playhouse
15 Vandam St.
Sunday, August 15, 7:15; Tuesday, August 17, 5:45; Saturday, August 21, 4:45; Wednesday, August 25, 9:45; Saturday, August 28, 6:00
Tickets: $15-$18
866-468-7619
www.abrahamsdaughterstheplay.com
www.fringenyc.org

Forest Hills native Elissa Lerner headed south for college, graduating cum laude in religion and theater studies from Duke University. She put those disciplines together for her honors thesis, ABRAHAM’S DAUGHTERS, a provocative play that has been selected to be part of the fourteenth annual New York International Fringe Festival. Produced by Lerner and directed by Niccolo Aeed, ABRAHAM’S DAUGHTERS follows the changing personal and sexual relationships among a group of students at a southern university, including the Jewish Sara (Rebecca LaChance), the Muslim Ranya (Déa Julien), the Methodist Kate (Keely Flaherty), and the atheist Will (Ayreh Lappin). Earlier this week, Lerner, who is also a freelance journalist working on her master’s at NYU, took a break from her hectic production schedule to discuss Duke, religious politics, and being at the Fringe.

twi-ny: ABRAHAM’S DAUGHTERS has been influenced by stops in Qatar and Israel, among other locations. Currently, in New York City, there is a debate going on about the potential building of a mosque near Ground Zero, and there are more and more protests against Israeli actions, especially on college campuses. Where does the play fit in the ongoing battle over religious freedom and interfaith dialogue?

Elissa Lerner: That’s a great question, and an important one. One of the things the director and I have talked about with regard to ABRAHAM’S DAUGHTERS is that the play is about interfaith dialogue but it’s not a conversation full of buzzwords and catchphrases, ie., Muslims have lives that don’t have to circuitously relate to 9/11 just as Jews aren’t necessarily defined by Israel around the clock (and Christians have lives that are not reduced to fundamentalist caricatures). Where the play succeeds, I hope, is that it tells an honest story of individuals and their relationships to each other and how their faiths influence them in both conscious and unconscious ways. I think this is where the audience will be able to relate to the characters — not because of a shared religious ideology masquerading as politics (or vice versa) but because all of us have personal relationships to our religious (or irreligious or areligious) backgrounds, and hopefully this will be a welcome forum to turn a critical eye and sensitive ear.



twi-ny: What does it mean to you to be part of the New York Fringe Festival?

EL: It’s incredibly exciting to be a part of the Fringe. I had a few friends involved in the Fringe last year and I thought, wow, this seems like a great opportunity, I wonder if I could make it? So when I found out ABRAHAM’S DAUGHTERS made it in this year, it was very gratifying to be considered among a pool of extremely talented artists from around the city, the country, and even the world. I’m just really proud and honored to have the chance to be a part of that.

twi-ny: What was a nice Jewish girl like you doing in a place like Duke? You seem to have shaken up both the religion and theater departments while you were there. What was that experience like?

EL: That’s funny! There is certainly a lingering perception among northern Jews about Duke, but I found it to be, well, unfounded. One of the things I loved most about my time there was that Duke brings together students from all over the country — Jews included. It was great meeting Jews from places like Texas and Alabama and comparing notes. But at the same time, for example, I relished getting to know grad students who had gone to bible colleges and were preparing for Christian ministry. It was just completely different exposure than what I had known growing up in New York City. And as for shaking up departments — one of the first things I was told as a freshman was that Duke is proud of its traditions but equally proud of creating new ones. With that in mind a few years later, I thought perhaps the religion and theater studies departments would be open to an unusual honors project proposal. It did take some convincing — but any viable honors project should take some convincing to prove to faculty that you’re serious. And at the end of the day, it was (and continues to be) extremely rewarding to see that this crazy idea really does have legs.